Patreon Nuked Again – Discuss here!

A general area for discussion in regards to my temporary Patreon suspension.

 

Here’s their email and my initial response:

 

I will be looking into alternative ways to completely replace Patreon at this point in case they don’t play ball.

 

If Patreon doesn’t play nice then a Subscription-like setup on this website is probably my best option. Paypal/Visa don’t like porno at all unfortunately. Which would leave me with CCBill (Debit/Credit cards, its what most all the big porno sites use) and maybe bitcoin.

 

Japanese based Patreon clones are possible but messy. Not only are they in mostly Japanese but censorship becomes an issue.

 

 

-I found something that has a lot of potential I think. Going to see what Patreon does before I contact the other service.

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Daverost
Daverost
01/16/2018 9:25 pm

I saw someone drop the URL in response to someone asking for it instead of waiting for you to send it in one of the Patreon posts. I wonder if that’s what led them here and created the sudden issue.

Well, good luck again.

JohnSmith
JohnSmith
01/16/2018 9:29 pm

Seems like a longshot, but have you considered enty.jp?

cyxceven
cyxceven
01/16/2018 9:41 pm
Reply to  Mantis-X

There is also Fantia or Pixiv Fanbox.

Whatever you decide, I’ll do my best to follow.

devicedesktop121j8v
devicedesktop121j8v
01/18/2018 1:06 pm
Reply to  Mantis-X

Booth (linked to pixiv) ask for Jap Bank Account and Enty is indeed messy and ask for censoship (as jp law)

margheritamastroph1hqmmi
margheritamastroph1hqmmi
01/17/2018 4:19 am
Reply to  Mantis-X

For lolicon content there’s also Fantia,but Enty and Fantia are good but Fantia is lolicon and hentai focused.

Hodoo
Hodoo
01/16/2018 10:18 pm

I find it sad that Patreon feels the need to crusade against specific types of -fictional- content.

Unfortunately, even if you’ve never linked to this website on your page, you do mention it fairly often on Patreon, and require a Patreon login to view a lot of content. So I can easily see them not being cool with the current setup.

Personally, I would prefer to avoid card subscriptions, so I hope you are able to find a viable alternative.

Good luck and don’t let this get you down!

astrayflame
astrayflame
01/18/2018 1:08 pm
Reply to  Mantis-X

You should look into Skrill also. It is similar to Paypal, but I’m not sure about their TOS and if it allows for hentai and such.

SpaceCuba
SpaceCuba
01/16/2018 10:47 pm

I’ve used CCBill and I’m fine with using it if it needs to happen.

Hopefully Patreon will undo the suspension

x.helenh0b6
x.helenh0b6
01/17/2018 12:32 am

O nooo not again T.T
I hope everything works out in the end.

Moistenator
Moistenator
01/17/2018 12:47 am

They don’t specify whether comments have any weighting. Is heart pupils or fishnet attire entirelu sexual when taken out of context? I have no reason to believe you *wouldn’t* be holding any kind of job, so how can they exactly assume you’re funding a server patreon with patreon? Because you refer to it and use patreon authorization login? Not really fair to target degenerate audience and then be ambiguous as fuck when you’re willing to be compliant.

fenixtoradorh0jk
fenixtoradorh0jk
01/17/2018 1:15 am
Reply to  Mantis-X

All that is, is a login measure to filter people who don’t support you. You could advise them that it’s more secure that way instead of emailing a password which could easily be passed around to people who don’t support you.

Moistenator
Moistenator
01/17/2018 9:57 am
Reply to  Mantis-X

I’m thinking it might be reference to the domain and thereforth explicits found no where else in existence but gated behind reward tiers.
Public content links are indiscriminately an incidental occurrence

shirolen138gm
shirolen138gm
01/17/2018 12:53 am

Regardless of the outcome, I will respect your opinion. good luck.

masterhopeh15drlr
masterhopeh15drlr
01/17/2018 1:00 am

Patreon stuff is realy messed up and why all other pay methods have such hate vs porn baffles me. Hope everything works out and I will still stay a fan. If you choose direct payment, then I would prefer one time payment for a certain time length

Ayyyy, dont like why my mail adress is shown instead of patreon name.

Dembed
Dembed
01/17/2018 1:45 am
Reply to  Mantis-X

Ahhh nice to know.
I am kind of a tech stonage person, dont realy bother with much anyhting until I encounter something new that bothers me. Even apps are too superflous for me, no whatsapp etc.

fenixtoradorh0jk
fenixtoradorh0jk
01/17/2018 1:12 am

Wow yeah, fucking cucks at Patreon. They’ve got no proof, so let them argue in futility lol.

fenixtoradorh0jk
fenixtoradorh0jk
01/17/2018 1:17 am
Reply to  Mantis-X

I’m sure just a general disclaimer on every picture that’s on patreon to the likes of “Any fictional character shown here in 18+” would resolve most of their issues. Still seems like a nonsensical thing to do since there’s technically no loli content on their feeds.

fenixtoradorh0jk
fenixtoradorh0jk
01/17/2018 1:22 am
Reply to  Mantis-X

Keep us updated when you can and as always, keep up the amazing work! Don’t give them an inch when you’re not in the wrong!

wesley.germing8ho1nb
wesley.germing8ho1nb
01/17/2018 1:39 am

so what you have been saying , we suscribers pay patreon and patreon not you ?

WesleyG
WesleyG
01/17/2018 1:43 am
Reply to  Mantis-X

oh good, if that was the case i would hold off the suscription to them, i rather pay it directly to you as artist

WesleyG
WesleyG
01/17/2018 1:53 am
Reply to  Mantis-X

i see,
it can probaly save us supporters some bucks if we could directly support you that way, i think,

Calibus
Calibus
01/17/2018 2:19 am

Worst part is that I doubt Patreon is being pro-active about this. It’s likely someone reported you. People have issues.

fenixtoradorh0jk
fenixtoradorh0jk
01/17/2018 2:38 am
Reply to  Calibus

Personally I can’t stand people the report artists -_- they need to learn what the fuck art is.

WesleyG
WesleyG
01/17/2018 5:56 am
Reply to  Mantis-X

i agree with that, somepeople just cant stand 2d loli charachetrs, whati always say, in most cases lolis are more adults then adults themselfs

WesleyG
WesleyG
01/17/2018 5:55 am

some people mix up 2d loli with real cp and thats illigal, thats what causing conflicts,
but odly enough FPS games that nearly looks 90% real life killing is accepted,
while they are both illigal in my eyes

Moistenator
Moistenator
01/17/2018 2:49 am
Reply to  Calibus

Likely someone someone doesn’t like their idol Miku lewded.

Moistenator
Moistenator
01/17/2018 5:11 am
Reply to  Mantis-X

Sounds fake… Some people though could stand to not hand their money to strangers

Moistenator
Moistenator
01/17/2018 9:37 am
Reply to  Mantis-X

Time and money means very little to grievers.

Moistenator
Moistenator
01/17/2018 2:53 am

Too bad there’s no ‘sensitive’ /offensive category for content like twitter or other platforms.

Moistenator
Moistenator
01/17/2018 7:12 am
Reply to  Mantis-X

Every platform that deal with reports with as is basis with no special exclusions has this problem.
“My content is good, no one can get offended by this.”
‘$5 says I can’ or;
‘Me and 19 “friends” and their $2 payed to them from me says I can’. ;
‘$75 and thousands of false flags or DMCA removals says so’.
It’s seriously easier to pander to the talentless because their sleasy grabbers go under the radar and never raises qualms.

medhathobo
medhathobo
01/17/2018 7:31 am

Discrimination of smol girls is disgusting.

Blaze
Blaze
01/17/2018 7:41 am

Ill never understand why people love to bitch about loli content and nothing else. Its a fetish no different from any other. Its ok to have a rape fetish, a gore(dead or mutilated body) fetish, a vore(swallowed alive) fetish, and even a woman beating fetish, but when it comes to loli THATS what crosses the line? Strap on some balls and accept that there are actually people out there that have different things they like. What a wonderful society we live in am i right? With all that said i will gladly support you with whatever method you choose. Dont… Read more »

WhyTFmyMeatHard
WhyTFmyMeatHard
01/17/2018 7:59 am

I really hope you get your Patreon back and that they’ll leave it up. The problem with changing to another site is that a lot of people (including me) won’t be able to support you without the option of using Paypal.
I don’t think Patreon has a real reason of nuking you. It’s not that you linked your site on your Patreon (as far as i know) and you only use Patreon for access to a mega link and some posts here. They shouldn’t be able to pull that move since you obey all of their rules. >.<

Good luck!!

Anomanom
Anomanom
01/17/2018 8:03 am

I do hope this day job is a real one because Patreon will most likely ask for proof(e.g pay stub), but other than that patreon dosen’t have much of case for this one.

Strong In The Real Way
Strong In The Real Way
01/17/2018 8:17 am

1) I blame my fellow Patrons who I’ve seen repeatedly carry on posting comments along the lines of “fucking the delicious lolis” in your Patreon comment section. Patreon are not morons, they can put 1 and 1 together. Good-fucking-job, idiots. Sigh.

2) Patreon is clearly out to get you. I don’t know why. I support several other creators who produce nothing but loli content and they are flying under Patreon’s radar and have suffered no consequences as a result of this new policy.

Blaze
Blaze
01/17/2018 8:52 am
Reply to  Mantis-X

Thankfully the “login with patreon” function still seems to be working for now.

kyoshourz8hea36
kyoshourz8hea36
01/17/2018 8:47 am

Here’s something that is relevant and my words on it at the time: MET ART UNDER FIRE – https://tinyurl.com/y7qfraxz Here’s my take on this, and message to those offended by this or any of the artist in question’s works. Yes, I looked at some of his more explicit paintings. The same thing applies. Is the art ‘sexual’? That depends on the mind of the observer and it varies from person to person. However human sexuality is a very present factor in most of the species and major driver in how we view the world about us, our motivations and so… Read more »

Moistenator
Moistenator
01/17/2018 9:31 am

As long as some snowflake can get offended by it, there’s always going to be wrongthink attitude.
People commonly can’t, or chose not to differentiate between what’s not alright and what people think is not alright. It gets preemptively clumped together by the mass populous into a massive mess of shit. It’s easier on the sheeple so they can simply exclaim wolf on any shit they see while under protection of the flock, rather than break from the flock.

bonsai242124r58
bonsai242124r58
01/17/2018 9:45 am

That really sucks. How difficult would it be to setup a subscription directly from your website? 3DG-Spot does that, although they don’t allow downloads.

Pyreaus
Pyreaus
01/17/2018 1:19 pm

You could use Makersupport, I think they might be okay with your stuff. It’s a free speech Patreon alternative.

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01/17/2018 2:44 pm

Have you considered taking cryptocurrency donations?

KougamiJuan
KougamiJuan
01/17/2018 4:23 pm

It does not matter what choice you make. I will always follow you.

Undead241
Undead241
01/17/2018 10:54 pm

I hope this gets resolved without any other issues. If you plan on switching i’ll follow because you’re one of the few people that deserve my money for how much work you put in.

Matiwaran
Matiwaran
01/18/2018 1:15 pm

I have been blocked too for the same reason. I do hope get back access to my patrons.
I guess, for now, i will post once for each “Tier” that give a folder mega key to download !
I also do hope you will find a way to fix this… and so am i !
Keep the loli safe ! Don’t hide them 😀

JenLeo
JenLeo
01/20/2018 9:07 am

Well, if you find away around Patreon i’d be happy to fund you, its hard to find such well made content in this genre. The only issue I have with an alternative method is security. I’m paranoid about hackers stealing information. Patreon is secure, so i hope whatever your alternative is stays secure to.

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