Patreon Status Update
Here is the email I received earlier from Patreon. The crux of the problem being the fact that I linked my Patrons to my website (and probably having lolicon as Patron rewards; though she didn’t mention that; it is implied)
So in order to carry on I face a few challenges:
Patron Rewards – Should not contain anything against their ToS. This means I might have to end up taking out the “1080p” video reward and just making them all public. Rewards will have to consist of SFW renders/Chen stuff/WIPs/etc.
Content Alerts – I can not mention my website in any way, shape or form on my Patreon. This includes things like the “content alerts”. People who want to keep up to date with my latest content should probably subscribe to my news letter on the front page.
My plan so far:
Give them what they want. Modify the rewards on my Patreon page to be ToS-Friendly only.
MakerSupport will mirror the rewards for fairness sake.
I will not be able to directly link to this website anymore from my Patreon
Get rid of the Patreon Login on my website. Users can sign up and register for their own personal accounts on my website itself if they wish, but its not required
— Also
MakerSupport – A new untested playground for such content. Their ToS do not explicitly state that lolicon is forbidden; but they do allow hentai. They only outright forbid real-person porn and of course actual Kiddy Porn. They do not accept Paypal yet but it might be a good idea for those willing to migrate over to MakerSupport when they can/or if they don’t want to support Patreon’s antics by giving them a piece of the pie.
I am open to ideas and feedback!
(If this all fails pairing up with a hentai hosting network that helps me setup my own billing gateways is my final option)
If MakerSupport adds support for paypal then I’m all for that. Kinda seems crazy that patreon crack down on you but there are other creators that make loli content (but not exclusively loli content) and I never see them have issues.
Thats the way the cookie crumbles. I know a few others did get hit though sadly.
On a personal note, the arrogance of their ‘I notice you continue to direct Patrons to your personal website while your Patreon page is under review’ and ‘content you share with your patrons is subject to our community guidelines even if it hosted on another platform’ makes me want to puke.
I would suggest slowly moving off Patreon to a site that supports free, artistic expression, as that site is more deserving of our business / money.
That’s precisely why I am starting up MakerSupporter; and encouraging Patrons to move off of Patreon. This whole thing disgusts me, especially the way they apparently scrubbed through my PMs.
That’s gross. I’m reminded of how I once got a PM from an rpol.net moderator saying “Hey, I noticed your password is just one letter off from this other account, are they both you?”
Wait a second, you have total unencrypted access to user passwords? Pfffffffft
Then I get banned trying to tell anyone else about it. (Yes, still sore.)
Yea no kidding “Encrypted” my ass lmfao xD
Eh just tweet that shit out to hacker groups and get their asses exposed lol
tbh I joined for Chen in the first place, and everything else has just been icing on the cake of honks. More Chen would be appreciated :p If Patreon’s gonna pull dumb shenanigans for reasons I will literally never be able to fathom, I’m all for you moving to another service. Just keep us updated.
Gotta love Chen! And I will do my best to keep everyone informed of what I do next =3
I think just don’t post anything on Patreon, doing SFW stuff feels twee and a waste of time considering the focus of the patreon. Advertise this site on twitter and other social media, let people draw the conclusion that they need to donate to your patreon to get the early access/1080p stuff and leave the patreon page alone. It’s not well set up for social media kinda things anyway and it doesn’t need anything posted on it rewards wise, subscribing to this site works just fine. Patreon’s rapidly going down the shitter really, I remember asking a LONG time ago… Read more »
Thank you for the feedback!
Will you be able to create some NSFW content still or will it be dropped all together because of Patreon?
I can and will create some NSFW content; I just wont be linking to it or talking about it on Patreon. it will go directly here.
Thank you, I was worried since Patreon is trying to f you over on fictional characters. Do you think Maker Support is a trust worthy site? I rather give you money from a site that does not try to f you over
Well I think they are a safer bet than Patreon at the very least. The way I’m set up on MakerSupport should be safe unless they go total nutballs. (Like Patreon has)
Okay cool before the first of next month I’ll be switching, the only reason why I made a Patreon account in the first place was to support your work anyway
;3 I really appreciate that thank you!
I agree….though it becomes an issue of effective Patron / Donation support to keep paying customers to support him? Though I have noticed a lot of webcomics are successful at offering their stuff for free and having people just donate to a Patreon or other such site as a way of keeping them running. Questionable Content comes to mind in this.
The real question boils down to this: How many donators / patrons will Mantis bleed if they realize they do not have to pay to access most, if not all of his stuff?
That is indeed one of the bigger questions; I guess only time will tell!
IIRC they didn’t say he couldn’t use the patreon widget that checks what your donation level is, meaning that he can still put reward content up, he just can’t talk about it on patreon.
Correct; but no matter how you look at it Patrons are being rewarded banned content that way; something they are against apparently.
patreon fags
xD buwahaha
Patreon has become the knuckles meme
DIS IS NOT DEY WAE!
Well alright then we’ll make our own way. Build our own bridges.
Once we finish building our glorious empire it shall be a monument to our success and determination. And for patreon a monument to their sins. We shall ride out the harrowing night while patreon is left behind.
Seems like a good idea to me! We shall show people de way!
All memes aside thats actually incredibly insightful advice at its core. When one depends on patreon or any crowd funding platform, they are essentially building their castle in someone elses sandbox. They can easily crush it when they want to.
You and all amazing content creators deserve better and as a supporter of your content I shall follow you where ever you may go. Don’t stop making your art continue making your petite (but in no way small) mark on the world.
^_^ good show sir/madam/miscellaneous good show.
;3 well thank you very much for your love and support!
I really don’t want to give Patreon any of my money so i’ll switch over to MakerSupport as soon as they have Paypal support. I’ll still support you on Patreon until i can use Paypal on MakerSupport.
Sounds like a plan!
I suppose the problem could come up later again if/when MakerSupport gets big enough like Patreon. I’m not sure if you’re familiar with Enty, but I’m pretty sure it allows loli content as its based in Japan. Although I’m not sure what their stance with censorship is due to japanese laws. The site seems to have an english version as well, so it could work? Their fee system does seem a bit different, at least based on the FAQ.
https://enty.jp/en/
I do have some ideas pertaining to not Enty; but Fantia. Another Japanese Patreon clone that is open to Hentai and loli etc. Gonna pursue that when things settle down to see if I can make anything out of it.
Should send a message out that says “Fuck Patreon” and see if they can read that one, too. I’m not entirely sure how they expect you to create a point of discussion among your patrons if they’ve got your account on lockdown.
They probably dont want me too, group discussion is bad M’kay!
But in all seriousness I think it was the fact that I was shooting out literal links in the messages. From now on I’ll just mention that I’m going to discuss this elsewhere and people will know whats going on (I hope)
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