Patreon Status Update

 

Here is the email I received earlier from Patreon. The crux of the problem being the fact that I linked my Patrons to my website (and probably having lolicon as Patron rewards; though she didn’t mention that; it is implied)

So in order to carry on I face a few challenges:

Patron Rewards – Should not contain anything against their ToS. This means I might have to end up taking out the “1080p” video reward and just making them all public. Rewards will have to consist of SFW renders/Chen stuff/WIPs/etc.

Content Alerts – I can not mention my website in any way, shape or form on my Patreon. This includes things like the “content alerts”. People who want to keep up to date with my latest content should probably subscribe to my news letter on the front page.

 

My plan so far:

Give them what they want. Modify the rewards on my Patreon page to be ToS-Friendly only.

MakerSupport will mirror the rewards for fairness sake.

I will not be able to directly link to this website anymore from my Patreon

Get rid of the Patreon Login on my website. Users can sign up and register for their own personal accounts on my website itself if they wish, but its not required

 

 

Also

MakerSupport – A new untested playground for such content. Their ToS do not explicitly state that lolicon is forbidden; but they do allow hentai. They only outright forbid real-person porn and of course actual Kiddy Porn. They do not accept Paypal yet but it might be a good idea for those willing to migrate over to MakerSupport when they can/or if they don’t want to support Patreon’s antics by giving them a piece of the pie.

 

 

I am open to ideas and feedback!

(If this all fails pairing up with a hentai hosting network that helps me setup my own billing gateways is my final option)

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medhathobo
medhathobo
01/18/2018 11:48 pm

If MakerSupport adds support for paypal then I’m all for that. Kinda seems crazy that patreon crack down on you but there are other creators that make loli content (but not exclusively loli content) and I never see them have issues.

kyoshourz
kyoshourz
01/18/2018 11:58 pm

On a personal note, the arrogance of their ‘I notice you continue to direct Patrons to your personal website while your Patreon page is under review’ and ‘content you share with your patrons is subject to our community guidelines even if it hosted on another platform’ makes me want to puke.

I would suggest slowly moving off Patreon to a site that supports free, artistic expression, as that site is more deserving of our business / money.

Saerain
Saerain
01/20/2018 5:03 am
Reply to  Mantis-X

That’s gross. I’m reminded of how I once got a PM from an rpol.net moderator saying “Hey, I noticed your password is just one letter off from this other account, are they both you?”

Wait a second, you have total unencrypted access to user passwords? Pfffffffft

Then I get banned trying to tell anyone else about it. (Yes, still sore.)

Moistenator
Moistenator
01/22/2018 11:29 pm
Reply to  Saerain

Eh just tweet that shit out to hacker groups and get their asses exposed lol

Cap'n
Cap'n
01/19/2018 12:05 am

tbh I joined for Chen in the first place, and everything else has just been icing on the cake of honks. More Chen would be appreciated :p If Patreon’s gonna pull dumb shenanigans for reasons I will literally never be able to fathom, I’m all for you moving to another service. Just keep us updated.

MinamotoTerumi
MinamotoTerumi
01/19/2018 12:56 am

I think just don’t post anything on Patreon, doing SFW stuff feels twee and a waste of time considering the focus of the patreon. Advertise this site on twitter and other social media, let people draw the conclusion that they need to donate to your patreon to get the early access/1080p stuff and leave the patreon page alone. It’s not well set up for social media kinda things anyway and it doesn’t need anything posted on it rewards wise, subscribing to this site works just fine. Patreon’s rapidly going down the shitter really, I remember asking a LONG time ago… Read more »

Undead241
Undead241
01/19/2018 1:14 am
Reply to  Mantis-X

Will you be able to create some NSFW content still or will it be dropped all together because of Patreon?

Undead241
Undead241
01/19/2018 1:31 am
Reply to  Mantis-X

Thank you, I was worried since Patreon is trying to f you over on fictional characters. Do you think Maker Support is a trust worthy site? I rather give you money from a site that does not try to f you over

Undead241
Undead241
01/19/2018 1:39 am
Reply to  Mantis-X

Okay cool before the first of next month I’ll be switching, the only reason why I made a Patreon account in the first place was to support your work anyway

kyoshourz
kyoshourz
01/19/2018 1:13 am
Reply to  MinamotoTerumi

I agree….though it becomes an issue of effective Patron / Donation support to keep paying customers to support him? Though I have noticed a lot of webcomics are successful at offering their stuff for free and having people just donate to a Patreon or other such site as a way of keeping them running. Questionable Content comes to mind in this.

The real question boils down to this: How many donators / patrons will Mantis bleed if they realize they do not have to pay to access most, if not all of his stuff?

MinamotoTerumi
MinamotoTerumi
01/19/2018 1:28 am
Reply to  kyoshourz

IIRC they didn’t say he couldn’t use the patreon widget that checks what your donation level is, meaning that he can still put reward content up, he just can’t talk about it on patreon.

soup
soup
01/19/2018 2:01 am

patreon fags

ExecutedPython
ExecutedPython
01/19/2018 4:20 am

Patreon has become the knuckles meme
DIS IS NOT DEY WAE!
Well alright then we’ll make our own way. Build our own bridges.
Once we finish building our glorious empire it shall be a monument to our success and determination. And for patreon a monument to their sins. We shall ride out the harrowing night while patreon is left behind.

ExecutedPython
ExecutedPython
01/19/2018 5:05 am
Reply to  Mantis-X

You and all amazing content creators deserve better and as a supporter of your content I shall follow you where ever you may go. Don’t stop making your art continue making your petite (but in no way small) mark on the world.
^_^ good show sir/madam/miscellaneous good show.

WhyTFmyMeatHard
WhyTFmyMeatHard
01/19/2018 6:15 am

I really don’t want to give Patreon any of my money so i’ll switch over to MakerSupport as soon as they have Paypal support. I’ll still support you on Patreon until i can use Paypal on MakerSupport.

welp
welp
01/19/2018 6:47 am

I suppose the problem could come up later again if/when MakerSupport gets big enough like Patreon. I’m not sure if you’re familiar with Enty, but I’m pretty sure it allows loli content as its based in Japan. Although I’m not sure what their stance with censorship is due to japanese laws. The site seems to have an english version as well, so it could work? Their fee system does seem a bit different, at least based on the FAQ.

https://enty.jp/en/

Daverost
Daverost
01/19/2018 5:21 pm

Should send a message out that says “Fuck Patreon” and see if they can read that one, too. I’m not entirely sure how they expect you to create a point of discussion among your patrons if they’ve got your account on lockdown.

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