Support Platforms Changes

Hey folks!

 

So I have been thinking about changing the reward tiers on my support platforms.  The potential introduction of non-loli content gives me a good opportunity to re-introduce some of my old reward structures to help juice things up!

 

Now just to be clear, anything loli related will not be used as rewards on my support platforms and will still be publicly available for everyone!

 

For example; I am thinking about doing something similar to this

 

Non-Loli Content

  • Patrons will get access to 1080p watermark-free videos. Public videos will be reduced to 720p with added watermarks.
  • Patrons will also get access to all the animation WIPs. The public will not get these specific WIPs
  • Misc other rewards
  • Rewards will be directly posted and linked to from the support platforms. Freebie versions will be posted on this website and other various platforms.

 

Loli content

  • No real changes.
  • 1080p videos will still be public
  • Animation WIPs will be public

 

If the content is “mixed” (IE has both type of characters) it will not be a support reward.

 

An example of “Loli” characters: Patoots, Cybra, Illya, Lolias, Black Sister, etc

Examples of “Non-Loli/Normal” characters: Patchouli, Purple Sister, Normalized Miku, Rory Mercury etc

 

 

 

Also, I will continue using all 3 of my support platforms so people have a choice which one they wish to use.

 

Now nothing here is finalized; so feel free to discuss!

 

(Also note that I am not a fan of streaming or recording my work. I just can’t handle it mentally, chalk it up to a personality quirk. So that probably won’t ever be a reward.)

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Anonymous
Anonymous
11/17/2018 5:26 pm

I hope it does not reduce the production of loli content

NewAgeLink
NewAgeLink
11/17/2018 5:33 pm

To be completely honest, I would be a bit disappointed with this, but I understand the need to do something like this, it’s your choice in the end and I will support your decision no matter what it is

NewAgeLink
NewAgeLink
11/17/2018 5:52 pm
Reply to  Mantis-X

I’m perfectly fine with non Loli content, it’s the reward locking, but that’s only because I don’t have the money to support you

NewAgeLink
NewAgeLink
11/17/2018 6:00 pm
Reply to  Mantis-X

720ps are indeed pretty good, its just me being greedy…

btw, have you thought about setting up some sort of tip jar, that way people who cant afford to do so on a monthly basis can still have a way to support you?

NewAgeLink
NewAgeLink
11/17/2018 6:09 pm
Reply to  Mantis-X

i’ve seen a few other artists (some nsfw) use this site called ko-fi, you could try looking into that or something, just seems like a hassle to constantly subscribe then un-subscribe on patreon or whatever, idk, was just an idea, dont take it too seriously

Kazuto
Kazuto
12/03/2018 2:01 pm
Reply to  Mantis-X

For something like that maybe look into Ko-fi? Not sure how it is for you but I use it for some cosplayers I follow and it’s easy for me to donate that way

Anonymous
Anonymous
11/18/2018 7:03 am
Reply to  Mantis-X

It’s going to end up on the boorus or whatever anyway. I’ve always wondered about the revenue projections for restricted Patreon content vs opening it up. If it’s anything like my industry (tabletop games) the people who want to give you money will anyway. On the other hand, making them “feel like they’re getting something” matters.

Anybody in your industry do a study of that yet? The data should be pretty available.

Goose Bob
Goose Bob
11/17/2018 5:34 pm

I’d rather strictly loli but if you want to try a new avenue for exposure I’m all for it,honestly why even ask us do what you feel my guy,I’d rather you possibly grow as an artist and evolve than stay stagnant with the same ol stuff,me like many others I’m sure are here for the ride and don’t care about the destination 😛

Goose Bob
Goose Bob
11/17/2018 6:02 pm
Reply to  Mantis-X

Better to try and fail than not try at all,Not knowing the outcome of what it could have been :3,Aka go for it and if it all crashes down we can rebuild

Anonymous
Anonymous
11/18/2018 7:04 am
Reply to  Mantis-X

It’s not like the world ends if you draw a couple girls with big tits. 🙂

MassiveWeeb™
MassiveWeeb™
11/17/2018 5:50 pm

This is a good option, I’d say, for you and your patrons , because there would actually be some kind of more regular reward with your tiers (fate imouto is sadly rare), so that part is great! That said, I can easily imagine why others would be disappointed by this, as it would probably reduce your production of loli content. That said, I think it’s worth testing out at least, can’t hurt to do so! Either way, we’re here with you in those decisions, man.

Undead241
Undead241
11/18/2018 4:11 am
Reply to  Mantis-X

I would very much enjoy the Fate Imoutos turning lewd in your games, but I honestly don’t mind the non loli characters because it does add more variety and I hope it’ll help keep some of the haters off of you.

Anonymous
Anonymous
11/17/2018 6:04 pm

you can’t get stuck doing just one thing,I think everyone need to do something different from time to time,so if you want to do this then go ahead!

Anonymous
Anonymous
11/17/2018 6:48 pm

I think that WIPs should continue to be open to the public because you can get ideas from the comments and limiting them to a certain audience would be losing some potential for improvement. Also I do not think that WIPs are a privilege since it is only a control and a way to improve your final product, while more people can give their opinion better will be the product. this is my humble opinion 🙂

MarkSteele
MarkSteele
11/17/2018 6:48 pm

Oh god when i read that the 1080p videos would be for patrons only I thought you were talking about the loli’s. I got scared that I wouldn’t be able to see kanna in 1080p.

Anonymous
Anonymous
11/18/2018 7:05 am
Reply to  Mantis-X

Ravioli or riot!

Ultimadrago
Ultimadrago
11/17/2018 8:51 pm

I don’t know what to think of this. We built this together over loli 🙁 Is offering non-loli content more of a way to expand the audience? I suppose it does give an option for people to give again for rewards non involving the game (Is that still actively in the works or put on the back burner for a while?)

As long as you don’t slowly kill all loli content like this, I’ll support you Mantis~

Ultimadrago
Ultimadrago
11/18/2018 6:39 am
Reply to  Mantis-X

I see. Sorry for coming off as selfish, Mantis. I didn’t know Patron support had reached such a decline. I really do hope more people come to pitch in once they’ve seen your work. I want you to be able to keep creating new content. 🙂

Anonymous
Anonymous
11/17/2018 9:21 pm

I’m fine with it imo. I do feel the majority of your audience discovered you for the loli content so it may end up needing some time to bring awareness to those primarily attracted to the non loli content. Maybe some loli/non loli content together can bridge the gap while you start bringing in an additional crowd.

Daverost
Daverost
11/17/2018 10:08 pm

Full support from me. Should help bring some incentives back to the support platforms, which is ultimately a win for everyone, especially you, since it lets you keep doing what you’re doing.

Sidewym
Sidewym
11/17/2018 10:20 pm

Bring on the boobies. Seems like i am an oddball out of the community so far, but I’m glad to see you may be switching it up. As long as you keep these gals craving magnum dong, I’ll be a fan.

TheDerp
TheDerp
11/18/2018 12:34 am

I dont see why not. will support ya either way

LittleFargos
LittleFargos
11/18/2018 12:38 am

Hi there! (´。• ω •。`) Honestly, I admit that I have already wondered about the fundamental differences of the content for your patrons and all the other users. But I just did not raise this topic, your site is a place for me where i can see Your work and communicate. I have enough of this, your site is a lot of friendliness. ╰(▔∀▔)╯ But I had thoughts on the subject. And reading now the topic of the post I wonder how subtly you managed and make the theme of your support and leave content support for everyone else.

LittleFargos
LittleFargos
11/18/2018 4:59 am
Reply to  Mantis-X

I must admit that I’m not yet a patron (apparently not yet ripe(and conscience is already tormented (シ_ _)シ )). But about the small difference in content between patrons and the rest of your fans. I was able to guess the atmosphere on the forum. No, I did not find dissatisfied. Just intuition I guess. ┐(‘~`)┌ I also read the news and almost all the comments. I think your initiative was pleased with the old patrons. And will add new patrons ( ゚o⌒) (Intrigue is a good bait!).

LittleFargos
LittleFargos
11/18/2018 12:41 am

However, it is reasonable that the introduction of new content is made very carefully. I think it’s very good to define the rules of rewards on new content, I mean – it’s always easier on new content. Just so you know. I fully support ٩(◕‿◕)۶ the idea of supporting your work and You. One “thank you” will not be full, especially given the time spent on work. Master also wants to eat. ( ̄﹃ ̄)

LittleFargos
LittleFargos
11/18/2018 1:57 am

By the way, Mantis-X, apart from PayPal, can you use any other means of transferring money? A cash account for the tip would be nice, as suggested by the post above. Qiwi will not work? If the administration asks what the money is transferred for, you should answer :”Fund starving Mantis-X”! The last part was a joke. (^• ω •^) But seriously, these companies that are so serious about the reason for the transfer of money? If these companies ask what places the site, you should answer: “Cream, spice and everything nice!”. (o^▽^o) To be honest, it’s sad. But it… Read more »

LittleFargos
LittleFargos
11/18/2018 2:55 am

And by the way, it would be nice if sites like Fantia, Subscribestar, Patreon, etc.would allow users to have something like a savings account. (not sure about the translation). For example, the regular visitor John comes to your site and thinks: so, I have little money today, probably I will not be able to unlock privileges for $10. Oh! I can Deposit as much as I can every day! Further. John looks that he has already accumulated $10, but the month is coming to an end and he is not interested to enjoy the privilege of only 10 days. John… Read more »

LittleFargos
LittleFargos
11/18/2018 3:41 am
Reply to  Mantis-X

I understand that if you enter something like this, it will be a long work with the support platforms. But nobody will forbid to dream.. (*¯︶¯*)

saig
saig
11/18/2018 3:18 am

Completely I support you though I am not interested in non-loli content. I understand what this decision is connected with. It would be possible to arrange vote for the following character of loli with whom video every time when non-loli content as “encouragement” for the others is created will be made. I hope it will be more or less clear as translated via google translate.

Ephinox
Ephinox
11/18/2018 5:38 am

I fine with this. Sometimes non stop lewdness can feel a little tedious. I really wouldn’t mind seeing some cute content. What exactly do you have planned for the non lewd content?

Ephinox
Ephinox
11/18/2018 8:11 am
Reply to  Mantis-X

Wait. I thought this means you will make some non Loli content on payment platforms that won’t be NSFW. So the platforms won’t bann you from them. Isn’t that what your saying? Or will it be non Loli Lewdness? Interesting if so.

Anonymous
Anonymous
11/18/2018 1:20 pm
Reply to  Ephinox

He meant non loli content as in content with different types of body types.

Ephinox
Ephinox
11/18/2018 2:48 pm
Reply to  Anonymous

I see. I really did misread. Very interesting.

Shmolder
Shmolder
11/18/2018 8:12 am

I say go for it. To me you’re already an amazing person for giving us all this loli content for free, so I’ll support you in this endeavor. I know this means I won’t see Kanna and the other lolis as much, but as long as you’re still making animations I’ll be happy. 😁

LittleFargos
LittleFargos
11/18/2018 8:54 am
Reply to  Shmolder

*He it is getting close and nodss. Agrees. More nodss.* (シ. .)シ

A little word of advice~
A little word of advice~
11/18/2018 1:18 pm

What you have right now i believe is fairly solid. It wont alienate your current fanbase and the loli stuff has nothing to do with your patreon so they cant ban you for creating it. What is structured right now is, i believe fairly final. Very fair too in my opinion for free and paying customers alike. At the end of the day both types of content will bring in views and work as advertisement and people will still support you for both content. Just be sure to release the free content with watermarks but probably avoid putting your patreon… Read more »

Anonymous
Anonymous
11/18/2018 5:34 pm
Reply to  Mantis-X

Definitely understandable hopefully they understand like that as well and not just lump it all together. Patreon seems to be unreasonable sometimes and i thought i should bring it up. But if they properly seperate things then everything should be fine~

Anonymous
Anonymous
11/18/2018 7:44 pm

Can you just increase the price and add all content into one pledge?

Anonymous
Anonymous
11/19/2018 1:04 am

I prefer older girls, so this would be a nice excuse to start supporting you.

Slimonstar
Slimonstar
11/20/2018 12:02 am

I’ll support when i can then.

Anonymous
Anonymous
11/20/2018 4:14 am

How about releasing the 1080p vids for non-patrons on a delayed release? Like the patrons get it a week/month/century earlier?

already4514
already4514
11/21/2018 11:07 pm

I’m cool with 720p vids as long as we still get them. As a free user, this change doesn’t bother me.

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